• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    15 days ago

    My understanding is that the singularity is not proven to exist and many physicists believe it is an artifact of our incorrect understanding of the physics involved.

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      15 days ago

      Well, what exactly is inside the event horizon is unproven because we cannot possibly look. All of the rest of the physics seems to check out, though, and we know that there are things out there that behave just like our models of black holes predict. It’s an incomplete understanding rather than a necessarily incorrect one. If it is something else, it’d have to be something that looks more or less exactly like a black hole to an outside observer

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        15 days ago

        I would think an object of extremely high density could be difficult to distinguish from a point of infinite density, especially given the nature of the event horizon.

        I’m not saying the models are definitely wrong but usually when one of your terms goes to infinity it is a good reason to be skeptical.

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        15 days ago

        All of the rest of the physics seems to check out, though

        What is the entire problem, because all of the rest of the physics don’t get you coherent answers around a black hole.

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        14 days ago

        All of the rest of the physics seems to check out, though

        You know, except for the actual singularity which has no interpretable meaning in physics

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          14 days ago

          The comment above was about the singularity, so “the rest” clearly does not include the singularity

          I don’t think “no interpretable meaning in physics” is a reasonable description, though. In classical mechanics, sure, but we’ve got plenty of physics that doesn’t work in classical mechanics

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              14 days ago

              Non-classical mechanics includes things like quantum physics and (depending on who you ask) special relativity. They feel extremely counterintuitive but they provide pretty reliable explanations for how things work. That infinite density doesn’t make sense in our regular understanding of the world doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not a useful model. That doesn’t mean it’s necessarily true, of course, but the fact that it seems weird isn’t really important. It might just be that physics inside a black hole permit for something that we can best describe as infinitely dense